Curse

Tender Wolf · Jun 23, 2009, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Titles are now a big part of Guild Wars. Some enjoy them, others hate them. Some are cool, others are pointless. This thread is all about titles - share which ones you find to be stupid, pointless, awesome, easy, hard, fun, etc. I'll start.

I think a pretty pointless title is Legendary Survivor. Sure it's cool to display but it's just a grind to get to so much experience without dying. And with lag spikes coming out of nowhere, you could be 1k experience off and lose all that work. To me it's just not worth it.

Another pointless title? Legendary Defender of Ascalon. Cool statue, neat to display, but pointless just the same. Yay, you death leveled to level 20 in Pre Searing and went to Post so you could put the statue in the Hall of Monuments. I had a character that was trying to get that title but it didn't get past level 9 due to the Charr. Too much work/grind for me, but if you enjoy it, go nuts.

GWEN titles? Ugh, nothing but grind. The most they do is increase the effectiveness of their PVE skills. So while not completely pointless, they can be boring due to the grind. Same goes for Luxon and Kurzick skills as well as Sunspear and Lightbringer.

All titles are grind fests in some way, but there are some that are expensive as well. Examples? Legendary Skill Hunter. However, though it's expensive, I find it to be a good title; you get access to every elite skill in the game because capping it unlocks it. This is good for using tomes and heroes. So while the title is expensive, I think it's beneficial in the long run.

Sweet Tooth, Drunkard, Party Animal, and Wisdom titles are also expensive, but they're not as beneficial. The most you get from those is a cool statue, but I still hope to get Sweet Tooth and Wisdom someday, and perhaps Party Animal. I'm selling all my alcohol because I don't drink in real life so I won't drink in the game either - might as well sell it or trade it for the titles I want.

Protector and Guardian titles aren't bad, unless you have to repeat the missions numerous times because you fail. One good thing about Prophecies missions is that you can do the mission and bonus separate. Too bad the others aren't like that.

Cartographer? Yay you uncovered every pixel of a continent and probably used Texmod to do it. But hey, at least your map isn't all blurry.

I'm speaking from experience here since I finally got Legendary Cartographer. Got me to I'm Very Important.

Speaking of that title, the Kind of a Big Deal title track is okay, but it's a lot of grinding adding up to one big grind. Personally I focus on individual titles rather than what will get me to the next tier of the KOABD track. And it works.

I know there are more titles, but this is all that I can think of at the moment. So feel free to share your thoughts!

slowerpoke · Jun 23, 2009, 05:56 PM // 17:56

all of them are pointless

zelgadissan · Jun 23, 2009, 06:01 PM // 18:01

I compare my titles to Xbox Gamerscore - 100% pointless, but if I see that I'm missing an achievement it bugs me to no end. More or less the same with titles. Pretty sad, really.

ll Jamie ll · Jun 23, 2009, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Some titles can be fun to get.

But i have to admit, drunkard.. party.. sweet tooth, whats the point? Unless you have like millions to throw in the gutter its a waste. (especially a waste of time with drunkard)

In my opinion, i like the protector/guardian titles. And the ebon vanguard title track keeps me occupied inside that siege devourer

Apollo Smile · Jun 23, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

I'm all for titles in GW1 and hopefully a ton more in GW2. To me collecting em is no different than, Xbox Live achievements, or collecting all the trophies in Smash Bros. Its not necessary but fun.

Verene · Jun 23, 2009, 06:39 PM // 18:39

I'm working on Sweet Tooth myself, but since I'm mostly using event drops and stuff from Nicholas for that, I've got a ways to go still before I'll even get the first title, let alone max it.

To be honest, I'm just too lazy to grind titles. I'll get the Protector ones just because I go for bonus/masters on everything the first time around, but I won't bother with Guardian because I hate doing missions in NM to begin with, not going to even bother with HM. Cartography...I dunno. I got to 90% in Prophecies and then sort of gave up. Maybe I'll finish that out someday. I've got the first track on Treasure Hunter, probably won't get past that. Reputation-wise, I might max Sunspear/Lightbringer but that's about it; EOTN ones I'll just get far enough for armor most likely. I've a character I made to try and get Survivor, but I never play her because I'm worried about dying from lag.

So yeah. Those people who have more than a handful of maxed titles...must have a ton of patience. Which I don't.

upier · Jun 23, 2009, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

So while not completely pointless, they can be boring due to the grind. Same goes for Luxon and Kurzick skills as well as Sunspear and Lightbringer.

Just bringing up Sunspear.
I consider it to be one of the best "grindy" titles in the game. As I made my para - I jumped him to GWEN at lvl10, boxed his way to 20 because I couldn't be bothered with the slow progress. But that then meant I couldn't gain any more points in NM on the Island, so I just switched to HM. I leveled up my poor heroes, doing the Istan storyline and VQing at the same time. And before I even completed the game - the boy had VQed most of the areas where one gets SS points for successful VQs and he ended up with a maxed SS title.
So, the Sunspear title is ONLY grind if you make it.
And then I could turn the book in for his Lightbringer title.

GWEN titles on the other hand ... not pretty.
Same thing with Luxon - that title takes 10 mil points to max, yet there are only 7 or 8 areas in the WHOLE game where one can gain points in PvE.
That's just really bad design.

And you forgot to mention the only titles I ever show (I don't even show the Lightbringer or the GWEN titles to get the bonus) - Lucky/Unlucky.
They are so obscenely pointless (well outside of that stupid chest luck factor

) that they represent titles at their best - just a third line to additionally customize your guy.
Perfect titles. Well, they'd be if they didn't demand such insane time investment.

snaek · Jun 23, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by upier

Well, they'd be if they didn't demand such insane time investment.

by time investment... you mean leaving gw on while you afk and do other things such as sleep?

Tender Wolf · Jun 23, 2009, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Ah, yes upier, I did forget about Lucky/Unlucky. I agree they're pretty pointless. I don't even try for those; my points for those come from lockpicks breaking or retaining (thanks to the former I've gotten rank 2 Unlucky off that alone lol).

Never thought of doing the Sunspear title that way; I just did the common worm run. Took a while but I got some golds and lockpicks out of it.

hehe

Earth · Jun 23, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57

The only titles I like are the titles you can get by playing the game.

Those would be Sunspear, Lightbringer, Gladiator, Champion, Hero, Luxon/Kurzick, treasure hunter, wisdom, protector/guardian.

The rest are dumb. Though it kind of bugs me to see a half-finished title bar :\

Mordiego · Jun 23, 2009, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Tender... Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you just basically doing some release therapy for your title-frustration here? You don't like titles and want more ppl to assure you that your whining about the fact they were introduced to the game is right?
don't like them=don't do them

lewis91 · Jun 23, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13

I like most of the allegiance rank titles because they add effect to pve skills which is always fun.

Infact i think most of them have a purpose, lucky and unlucky, all good. The only ones i don't care about is the ones that have no effect such as Ascalon defender, cartographer etc..

Also Zrank, really stupid title, hard to max, totally not worth using the keys, but its a gamble and gambling is always fun, even if you do put in 100k worth of keys and get 7k worth of crap out of it.

Ghost Omel · Jun 23, 2009, 07:23 PM // 19:23

SAme as some other posters.. If i dont have a ful set of something i am not easy.. so titles are somewhat a pain for me cause i need to complete them for fun...but even i have limitation when it comes to maxing them =)

Gift3d · Jun 23, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Zaishen rank is embarrassing. It just screams "I'm a pver who wanted an emote to flash but i'm too bad at guild wars to play ha so i spent all my gold buying zkeys". Also bugs me when people complain about not having any skills unlocked then want congratulations on their zrank. Come on.

But i guess i can't complain too much cause those same silly pvers make me rich every month. So it's all good i guess.

upier · Jun 23, 2009, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by snaek

by time investment... you mean leaving gw on while you afk and do other things such as sleep?

Absolutely.
But the problem isn't those 5ish days standing in the rings. The problem is that those 5 days only come around some 3 times a year!

Xyon the Greatest · Jun 23, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewis91

I like most of the allegiance rank titles because they add effect to pve skills which is always fun.

Infact i think most of them have a purpose, lucky and unlucky, all good. The only ones i don't care about is the ones that have no effect such as Ascalon defender, cartographer etc..

Also Zrank, really stupid title, hard to max, totally not worth using the keys, but its a gamble and gambling is always fun, even if you do put in 100k worth of keys and get 7k worth of crap out of it.

Z Rank is not stupid, it is awesome. And I do the title for the emotes, and not just to gamble my money away (which usually you wont get even half the money you spent back)

I think Z Rank is pretty cool, just dont show it in PvE or youll look like your just some rich bragger.

jray14 · Jun 23, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44

I like the ones that you advance during regular play and get gameplay benefits from:

Lucky
Unlucky
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Kurzick/Luxon
Lightbringer
Sunspear
Asura
Deldrimor
Ebon Vanguard
Norn

Leighwyn · Jun 23, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56

How is survivor title a grind? Sure, if you do it the degenerate ways available then it would be, but I would think that getting that level of XP without dying through playing the game would be more akin to a challenge than a grind? I got mine through a combination of gameplay and skill capping, and even that didn't feel like a grind to me.

Gigashadow · Jun 23, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

While it's true that titles are pointless, so are computer games, if you are looking at it from that sort of perspective.

To date the only title I have that feels personally meaningful (i.e. to me) is the Legendary Master of the North which I finally got last week, after H/H'ing the whole thing in little bits and pieces since EoTN first came out. Not because it's hard or rare, but because it had a satisfying sense of completion to it, and because doing the individual steps was fun. It wouldn't have been fun if I grinded the whole thing out in a short period of time, but I took my time, and worked in it little by little as I came back to GW several times after leaving to play other games for a while.

Ebony Shadowheart · Jun 23, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Some titles, if done the way most do them, are grind. Others are gold sinks - sweet tooth, party animal, drunkard. Many can be bought or ran for you - protector/guardian, vanquisher.

However if you do them simply as you play through the game and just for the fun of doing them, they are far more enjoyable and mean more to you as a person because you accomplished a goal you set for yourself. That's how I look at it.

I completed lvl 3 survivor, by myself with just h/h playing through Factions and Nightfall, skill capping as I went. Everyone calls it a pointless title because people farm it through kegging, fast faction farming, and the punch out tourney. Doesn't make how I earned any less special to me and I could really care less what other people think. I know the work I put into it and I enjoyed myself every step of the way, and that's what really matters.

Yes, LDoA is a grind title, but its also about patience and preserverence. Pulling those charr repeatedly is annoying, and a lesser person will just give up and say to hell with it. Someone goal oriented is going to stick with it until they reach that goal and honestly, I think that deserving of some appreciation. Yes, you can afk lvling them while you're sleeping or at work, but pulling them and setting them up over and over is a fricking pain.

Things like lucky and unlucky don't take any skill if you just afk rings when they are around and that's really only intended to be a gold sync. But it can be fun to chest hunt while playing through the game as well; again building the title as you play, not grinding it away.

Titles have their place. It gives people goals to work for, and like all things someones going to abuse it or call it grind, but its just something nice to work towards. If you don't like them then just don't do them. To each their own style.

For those that feel the zrank emote is just pvers showing off how much money they have, how do you explain zrank on pvpers then? Showing off that they have no life? For those of us that have everything unlocked, being able to use balth on keys gives us something to use it on.